{"id":79814,"date":"2021-11-03T00:16:39","date_gmt":"2021-11-03T00:16:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/globalroadtechnology.com\/\/?p=79814"},"modified":"2021-11-23T02:25:51","modified_gmt":"2021-11-23T02:25:51","slug":"qa-series-mahdi-shakouri","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/globalroadtechnology.com\/qa-series-mahdi-shakouri\/","title":{"rendered":"Q&#038;A Series #06: Interview with Mahdi Shakouri"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\"><p>[vc_row][vc_column width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243;][vc_custom_heading auto_text=&#8221;yes&#8221; heading_semantic=&#8221;h1&#8243; text_size=&#8221;h1&#8243; uncode_shortcode_id=&#8221;668522&#8243;]This is a custom heading element.[\/vc_custom_heading][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row unlock_row=&#8221;&#8221; row_height_percent=&#8221;0&#8243; override_padding=&#8221;yes&#8221; h_padding=&#8221;3&#8243; top_padding=&#8221;2&#8243; bottom_padding=&#8221;2&#8243; back_color=&#8221;color-lxmt&#8221; overlay_alpha=&#8221;50&#8243; gutter_size=&#8221;3&#8243; column_width_percent=&#8221;100&#8243; border_color=&#8221;color-uydo&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221; shift_y=&#8221;0&#8243; z_index=&#8221;0&#8243; uncode_shortcode_id=&#8221;100635&#8243; back_color_type=&#8221;uncode-palette&#8221; css=&#8221;.vc_custom_1635140067572{border-top-width: 1px !important;border-right-width: 1px !important;border-bottom-width: 1px !important;border-left-width: 1px !important;padding-right: 0px !important;padding-left: 0px !important;}&#8221; border_color_type=&#8221;uncode-palette&#8221;][vc_column width=&#8221;1\/1&#8243;][vc_row_inner][vc_column_inner width=&#8221;1\/2&#8243;][vc_single_image media=&#8221;79817&#8243; media_width_percent=&#8221;100&#8243; uncode_shortcode_id=&#8221;202801&#8243;][\/vc_column_inner][vc_column_inner column_width_percent=&#8221;100&#8243; position_vertical=&#8221;middle&#8221; gutter_size=&#8221;3&#8243; overlay_alpha=&#8221;50&#8243; shift_x=&#8221;0&#8243; shift_y=&#8221;0&#8243; shift_y_down=&#8221;0&#8243; z_index=&#8221;0&#8243; medium_width=&#8221;0&#8243; mobile_width=&#8221;0&#8243; width=&#8221;1\/2&#8243; uncode_shortcode_id=&#8221;145498&#8243;][vc_column_text uncode_shortcode_id=&#8221;211739&#8243;]<\/p>\n<h3>About the guest<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mahdi Shakouri is an industrial energy efficiency advisor with a demonstrated history of working in the sustainable industrial development and he has the experience of work for\/with international leading organizations such as UNIDO and UNDP. He has a PhD focused in \u201cenergy systems engineering &#8211; energy and environment\u201d from the University of Tehran.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>[\/vc_column_text][vc_column_text uncode_shortcode_id=&#8221;193230&#8243;]<\/p>\n<h5><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/mahdi-shakouri\/\">LinkedIn<\/a><\/h5>\n<p>[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column_inner][\/vc_row_inner][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text uncode_shortcode_id=&#8221;163096&#8243;]<\/p>\n<h3><b>The topic of discussion: Industrial energy efficiency and decarbonization<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Different industries produce energy and process-related carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. To reach net-zero by 2050, CO2 emissions must decline 3.5% year-on-year, on average. One pillar to cover this objective toward <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/globalroadtechnology.com\/\/decarbonization-in-mining\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">decarbonization<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> is to accelerate the application of energy efficiency in industrial sectors. Energy efficiency includes measures related to reduced demand and efficiency improvements. Energy efficiency measures could be considered as part of structural changes and circular economy practices as well.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In this article, we learn more about industrial energy efficiency and decarbonization from <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/mahdi-shakouri\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mahdi Shakouri<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, an Industrial Energy Efficiency Advisor who has worked for\/with United Nations Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO) and United Nations Development Program (UNDP).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>Q1: What percentage share of industrial sector emissions contributes to global greenhouse gas emissions?\u00a0<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The industry sector accounts for around 33% of global anthropogenic greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions in 2014 which was around 16700 million tone CO2 equivalent, and it can be categorized as: 1) direct energy related emissions, 2) industrial process emission and 3) indirect (electricity and heat) emission.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>Q2: How much annual CO2 emissions abatement is required for the industrial sector to reach the 1.5 \u00b0C by 2050 as compared to the baseline? And what are the main components of carbon dioxide emissions abatement in the industrial sector as a whole?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Optimistically, the industrial sector should reduce its annual CO2 emissions to around 12 Gtons to reach the 1.5 \u00b0C by 2050 compared to the baseline (Latest report by IRENA, 2021). The main components to cover this target for the industrial sector include: 1) renewable energy, 2) energy conservation and energy efficiency, 3) electrification in the end-use sectors, 4) hydrogen, 5) carbon capture, sequestration and utilization, and 6) biomass energy integrated with carbon capture and sequestration.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>Q3: Can you give us an example about the industrial decarbonization policies?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I would select UK as a good example to answer your question. UK has a roadmap to net zero industry and some sort of measures and actions have been considered within this roadmap. Combinations of different technologies and measures adopted by the UK can be addressed as follow:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Consider the implications of the recommendation of the Climate Change Committee to set targets for ore-based steelmaking to reach near-zero emissions by 2035.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Support increased resource efficiency and material substitution within industry, by driving the transition towards a circular economy model.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Improve energy efficiency through the adoption of technologies available in the market with low payback times.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Work with the cement sector to explore options to decarbonize sites.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Deployment of carbon capture and utilization on industrial sites.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Work to understand what is required to make sites retrofit-ready.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Increasing amounts of fuel switching to low carbon hydrogen.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Support the development of industrial digital technologies.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Low-regret fuel switching to electrification in industry.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Support sites to install energy management systems.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Improve heat recovery and reuse across sites.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Use of bioenergy in industry.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><b>Q4: Can you tell us about the readiness level of technologies toward decarbonization?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The technology readiness level of every single technology can be evaluated using indicators that are named TRL. This can be also addressed for decarbonization technologies. TRLs can be defined from level 1 to 9 depending on the readiness of the technology from the \u201cbasic principles observed and reported\u201d (level 1) to the \u201cactual system proven through successful mission operations\u201d (level 9).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When it comes to decarbonization technologies, the development and growth for some technologies are high enough to become commercial and popular. For instance, technologies such as \u201creducing the clinker content in the cement by using fly ash or blast furnace slag\u201d in cement industry or \u201cnear net shape casting\u201d in steel industry or \u201cplastics recycling\u201d in chemical process industry have reached to the TRL 9 level. More efforts are on the way and it is expected that by 2030 more decarbonization technologies will reach to the TRL 9 level.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>Q5: What would be the role of standardization in energy efficiency and decarbonization? What has done so far in this regard?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">International standardization organization together with other leading organizations such as UNIDO have proposed a framework for this process. The process started in 2011 with globally applicable standards which were called \u201cenergy management system\u201d framework. Several industrial sectors have switched their management process to this framework. This international standard named ISO 50001 which can be used for certification as well. Around 70% of valid ISO 50001 certificates until 31 December 2019 (latest update by ISO, 2020) belong to the companies based in Germany, China, UK, Italy, France and India. Germany is by far the first ranked country in this field with over 5700 valid certificates and this can be considered as one of the main essential components of the energy transition plans in Germany.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><b>Q6: What would be needed for a higher rate of engagement from the industrial sector in moving towards decarbonization?<\/b><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Although models can have uncertainties, we should open our eyes and see the current and near future caused by climate change and there are impacts without any doubt. I think it is the responsibility of all of us to change the mindset. We don\u2019t have enough time and today is too late. As far as my experience is concerned, for better engagement of the industrial sector we need to raise the awareness from one side and on the other side we need to work with different stakeholders. It is obvious that with more engagement of stakeholders, more success would be possible toward the transition. From another perspective, it is important to increase the technical capacity of the industrial sectors. When it comes to talking about the technical transition with the industrial experts, they would accept if they were happy with the technical and technological aspects. Thus, we need to increase their technical capacity via training programs. 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